Making of Matix Tangram and another Colin Kennedy Interview!
Matix Clothing released some commercials with these cool shapes which turned into the Matix logo. Well since we previously interviewed Colin Kennedy on DVS Skate and Create and he also sorta became my friend, I chose to grill him on instant messenger about what I have learned is called the "Matix Tangram!!"
(This interview took place RIGHT as we finished the DVS "Skate and Create" interview.)
Colin Kennedy: Finally just sent you the RedBull interview, sorry for the serious lag but I've been busier than a motherfucker.
RB: Wow, looks extensive. Thanks for doing that. Also is their any photo that I can post or just use the ones on dvsskate.com from the behind the scenes?
CK: The ones on our site are the best ones we had.
RB: What about one of your grill? So they can put the interview to the face.
CK: Yeah, sure, I'll send you one right now.
RB: Awesome. What you guys working on. The site looks great by the way and all that bonus stuff looks amazing. You guys just keep pumping it out, eh?
CK: Yeah, we've got tons of stuff. Did you see our new Matix commericial?
RB: No, Is it on the Matix site
CK: Yeah, on the home page, lower left.
RB: That commerical was amazing, was this in the empty space in the new spot before things got built?
CK: hmmm?
RB: Secrets, apparently. I mean things look fishy, obviously.
CK: I just didn't get the question. Oh, wait I see it, yes, it was the empty space in the new warehouse, before we moved in.
RB: How come those tricks look fishy, not 100% normal.
CK: They're 100% real!
RB: Maybe the colors, are saturated.
CK: it looks super cartoony on purpose and we shot it on a much nicer camera than the HVX.
RB: That was awesome tho.. wait, really which camera?
CK: We just rented the camera: Panasonic HPX3000. I think its called the Vari Cam.
RB: Oh wait.. I think we used that on the Redbull From All Angles shoot.
CK: It's the shit they shoot sporting events with.
RB: Aren't the costs for these camera's roughly 40k.
CK: Yeah, more like 45-50k
RB: Awesome, it's shot on those huge cassettes? I am kinda out of the loop on the dv talk so "huge cassettes" is as advanced as my lingo gets.
CK: No, actually this camera shoots with the same P2 cards as the HVX. it's just a better Codec, color space, pixel resolution, but the same P2 cards.
RB: Oh. Was the camera on record the entire time.
CK: Nope, We had this crazy remote box thing. The camera was attached to the ceiling 28 feet overhead so, no one touched it.
RB: Then you moved the boxes and overlaided the raw ground over the guys who moved it.
CK: No, just good ol fashioned stop motion. Move the box - get out of the frame - move the box. It was 11+ hours of moving the boxes. It was soo gnarly.
RB: No way! Really? I figured the same theory but instead of getting entirely out of the frame, you can just overlay the ground on top of the guy so he only has to move a foot back or so unless their is a shadow.
CK: yup, Shadows my friend, shadows. Plus different dust patterns on the floor. We thought of doing it like that, but that would've just made it a nightmare. Just fucking good ol fashioned manual labor.
RB: But didn't you kinda do it with the first bslip of whomever that was? The boxes were still moving while he was rolling up so he was super-emposed on top while the other parts were still stop motion.
CK: Nope, that's called post production.. a little after effects. Just some comping.
RB: Well. how ever you wanna call it.
CK: Actually we did a whole "Making Of." It'll be included with the Matix 10 year book coming out this January.
RB: Of course you did... Very thorough.
CK: We actually made 2 commercials. The second one will be done early next week.
RB: But wait.. What I am asking is for the first trick which is a back lip.. that roll-up was normal and you super em posed the last block in right before he did it.
CK: Yeah, something like that but he actually did it with the entire Kitty made.
RB: Yeah, totally.
CK: It's a blend of stop motion and live motion, so there is some layering going on.
RB: Yes! Ok.
CK: Once you layer, you can control the timing.
RB: Thats what I was wondering. It looked really fun to make but still but stressful.
CK: It was.. kind of. But yeah, very stressful. Fun though to do something like that.
RB: Yeah, maybe not on such a high scale. Is that your daughter screaming? That would be funny if it was.
CK: Yup, and my nieces too. Plus 1 nephew. With times like these, we can't afford to hire kids, need get them for free.
RB: Gotta get it done, however you need to. Thanks for giving me the inside scoop and letting all teh secrets out of the bag and into my heart.
CK: My pleasure, that's the thing, no secrets just old fashioned stop motion. Ah, your heart, that's sweet.
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